{"id":48473,"date":"2019-06-29T12:57:50","date_gmt":"2019-06-29T19:57:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/world.edu\/?p=48473"},"modified":"2019-06-29T12:57:50","modified_gmt":"2019-06-29T19:57:50","slug":"2-3rds-of-american-employees-regret-their-degrees-and-thats-the-spin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/world.edu\/2-3rds-of-american-employees-regret-their-degrees-and-thats-the-spin\/","title":{"rendered":"2\/3rds of American employees regret their degrees&#8230;and that&#8217;s the spin!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-48474\" src=\"https:\/\/world.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/collegeregret.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"680\" height=\"453\" srcset=\"https:\/\/world.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/collegeregret.jpeg 680w, https:\/\/world.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/collegeregret-250x167.jpeg 250w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not a big fan of broadcast news&#8230;it&#8217;s all a chorus at this point, so I can get the &#8220;mainstream&#8221; point of view when I&#8217;m forced to watch CNN every time I go to an airport, doctor&#8217;s office (lots of that for me anymore), or most any place citizens gather and are trapped.<\/p>\n<p>Nevertheless, a CBS report caught my eye. It tries its best to distort the truth in a recent report:<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/news\/two-thirds-of-american-employees-regret-their-college-degrees\/\">Two-thirds of American Employees regret their college degrees.<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I want to talk about the truth here, but also the spin and attempts to obfuscate. We as a people have had our ability to comprehend fractions basically destroyed, in our public education system (here&#8217;s the <a href=\"https:\/\/world.edu\/common-core-and-fractions\/\">easy way to add fractions<\/a>, and here&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/world.edu\/common-core-and-fractions-part-2\/\">what is attempted to be taught in schools<\/a>&#8211;turning adding fractions into a nightmare is a big pat of why people fear them).<\/p>\n<p>CBS could have just said 67% instead of scaring people. Perhaps I&#8217;m reading into this. The article begins by throwing some propaganda in:<\/p>\n<p><em>Science, technology, engineering or math majors, who are more likely to enjoy higher salaries, were least likely to report regrets, while those in the humanities were most likely.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The gentle reader should read the above, because there&#8217;s a big spin in there. We&#8217;re told over and over again how STEM is the holy grail of higher education&#8230;but let&#8217;s see if we can get to some truth here.<\/p>\n<p><em>a PayScale survey of 248,000 respondents this past spring<\/em><\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s a nice big sample. I know, statistics are prone to manipulation and lies, but with numbers this big, the results are fairly reliable in terms of being representative.<\/p>\n<p>The article also mentions total student loan debt is close to $1.6 trillion; it basically goes up around a $100 billion a year now, with very little value for the money. Average student loan debt is around $33,000&#8230;up around 10% from last year. I doubt many of my readers experienced a 10% increase in pay, or wealth, from last year&#8230;but debts are surely rising.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Most satisfied:<\/strong> Those with science, technology, engineering and math majors, who are typically more likely to enjoy higher salaries, reported more satisfaction with their college degrees. About 42% of engineering grads and 35% of computer science grads said they had no regrets.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Wait&#8230;what? The top of the article leads one to believe STEM is great but that&#8217;s spin. The article spins the first line by distracting the reader, waving dollar bills. But read those numbers carefully. MORE THAN HALF of engineering grads clearly had regrets. 65% of computer science grads have regrets.<\/p>\n<p>How can you say engineering and computer science are good degrees when the majority of people getting them regret it even when employed? In case you&#8217;re wondering how this can be, my friends with such degrees explain it well enough: you have to compete with workers with similar skills on the other side of the planet, willing to work for half (or less) pay. Even if you get a good job&#8230;you&#8217;re still in that competition, and inevitably lose your job a year or two later as the company realizes saving money on salaries helps their bottom line in the short term (although such companies generally have serious problems later&#8211;Hi Boeing!).<\/p>\n<p>The humanities majors fare the worst, about 75% of them regret their degrees. Honest, I have many good reasons to sneer at Gender Studies degrees, and as long as schools continue to hurt our kids by shoveling out such degrees, I&#8217;ll continue to chastise them for it.<\/p>\n<p><em>68% of math graduates who said they regretted their education.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Wait&#8230;what? Again. Didn&#8217;t the top of the article say something different? Spin, spin, spin. What&#8217;s happening here? Well, most math degrees are basically only good for teaching&#8230;but we&#8217;re crowded out by &#8220;math education&#8221; degrees which substitute indoctrination for mathematics; they get better retention, of course, and help students to get their Gender Studies degree.<\/p>\n<p><em>At least one sector of employment bucked the trend: Teachers and other professionals in education, which isn&#8217;t typically a high-paying profession, were the second-least likely, after engineering grads, to have any regrets tied to their major, with 37% saying they had no regrets.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Spin and spin and spin&#8230;.read the above carefully, clearly 63% do have regrets. Is that really so much different than the titular &#8220;2\/3rds&#8221; as to call it a bucking of the trend?<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8230;older Americans were more likely to report that they have no regrets about their education. Among baby boomers, or 51% said they have no college regrets, making them the only demographic with a majority reporting no regrets. In contrast, just 37% of Gen Xers and nearly 29% of millennials reported no regrets.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>It really is amazing how the obvious stands out in the above: higher education, once great in the past, is failing now. The system of three or more generations ago may have been worthy of the kind of money we&#8217;re pouring into it, but today&#8217;s system is simply too corrupt for further investment.<\/p>\n<p>Now comes the real spin hidden in the above. This poll only was for the <em>employed<\/em>. One can easily suspect that those with degrees, and unemployed, almost certainly regret getting a an obviously worthless degree. Unfortunately, the way how our government abuses the word &#8220;unemployed&#8221; makes it impossible to gauge how much higher than 67% the true number of people who regretted getting a degree is.<\/p>\n<p>There is even more spin.<\/p>\n<p>The poll also only focuses on those with degrees. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/feature\/freshman-year\/just-over-half-all-college-students-actually-graduate-report-finds-n465606\">Only about half of people who go to college, graduate.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Again, it&#8217;s a safe bet the people who spent years of their life on campus and walked off with nothing but (probable) debt have regrets about doing it.<\/p>\n<p>Bottom line, over 83% of people who go to college now regret it. 33% as per the study (from degree holders, half of those who go to college), another 50% (the non-degree holders), plus an unknown percentage because there&#8217;s no good way to measure the unemployed degree holders.<\/p>\n<p>83% of people who set foot on campus regret getting involved with a system paid for the student loan scam. Please&#8230;end it. Why is no presidential candidate brave enough to state the obvious here?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.professorconfess.blogspot.com\">www.professorconfess.blogspot.com<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m not a big fan of broadcast news&#8230;it&#8217;s all a chorus at this point, so I can get the &#8220;mainstream&#8221; point of view when I&#8217;m forced to watch CNN every time I go to an airport, doctor&#8217;s office (lots of that for me anymore), or most any place citizens gather and are trapped. 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