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Hairdresser: \u201cDidn\u2019t you used to teach at that community college, about 10 years ago?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

Me: \u201cYep.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

Hairdresser: \u201cI had a class with you there, even graduated. I hear it\u2019s a scam now.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

Me: \u201cYep. I\u2019d like it short in the back, please.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

–I had this conversation about a month ago. I hope she enjoyed her time at the community college but\u2026please don\u2019t tell me education is even remotely a path to riches.<\/em><\/p>\n

We\u2019re coming to a critical point in higher education: way too many of our college graduates are finding out that there simply isn\u2019t a job waiting for them after they get that degree. Granted, it\u2019s been that way for years, but the critical issue now is people are catching on to the rigged game.<\/p>\n

One solution to the \u201cno job for the recent college graduate\u201d problem is to go back for more school. It should be obvious on the face of it that this is a sucker\u2019s game\u2014if education doesn\u2019t get a you a job, more education isn\u2019t likely to help, right? The only advantage is, since you\u2019re going back to school, you don\u2019t have to make payments on your previous student loans, payments you\u2019d have to make if you keep looking for a job, a job you can\u2019t find.<\/p>\n

I imagine merely a tiny percentage of the population suspects that the situation described above is not a coincidence. I hope the percentage is growing, as I sure wish fewer people would double down on education by going to graduate school.<\/p>\n

Before going further, allow me to talk about my own \u201cgetting into graduate school\u201d experience:<\/p>\n

My undergraduate GPA was just barely above 3.5 (that\u2019s \u201cbelow average\u201d by today\u2019s standards, but still respectable). My general GRE scores quite good (98th<\/sup> percentile or so, if memory serves), and I\u2019d won a national award for mathematical research (2nd<\/sup> place was awarded to someone from a school called \u201cMIT\u201d). I always wanted to go to graduate school, and so naturally I applied after spending some time \u201cin the real world\u201d working as a stockbroker.<\/p>\n

I was rejected from the majority of graduate schools I applied to. It wasn\u2019t that I was all that weak an applicant, but the recent collapse of the USSR (at the risk of giving things away) meant the US was being flooded with high quality, famous (in their field) mathematicians, and this was going to continue for years\u2026there weren\u2019t going to be many jobs for new Ph.D.s anytime soon, and so grad schools did the right thing and cut back enrollments.<\/p>\n

The point of this backstory? I didn\u2019t have an easy time getting accepted to grad school, because the grad schools operated with integrity, responsibly only taking as many students as the job market could bear.<\/p>\n

Higher education has changed quite a bit since then, especially in the less technical fields where you can easily get hundreds of kids with 4.0 GPAs looking to sign up for more debt. If schools were still run by people with integrity, then the graduate schools wouldn\u2019t be bloated out with way too many students, looking for far too few jobs when they graduate.<\/p>\n

Unfortunately, admissions, like most everything else on campus, is run by the administrative caste (on most campuses), and all they want is growth.<\/p>\n

A recent article addresses<\/a> in detail the incredible disparity between jobs and graduates going on here, but I\u2019ll provide a few numbers highlighting the insanity:<\/p>\n

English Ph.D.s Awarded in 2016: 1400<\/em><\/p>\n

Faculty Positions in English Available in<\/em>\u00a02016: 900<\/em><\/p>\n

Hmm, so over 35% of the Ph.D.s last year are mathematically excluded from getting a job in academia\u2026the only place where a Ph.D. in English is worth anything. Isn\u2019t it a little bit irresponsible to do this? I\u2019m surprised there isn\u2019t a lawsuit. It\u2019s really worth pointing out that a Ph.D. in the social sciences, much like English, can easily take 6 to 10 years, so it\u2019s a pretty huge investment considering the low chance of even minimal payoff, and it isn\u2019t just this one subject.<\/p>\n

This situation is only going to snowball: the 500 people that couldn\u2019t possibly get a job in 2016 are going to try again in 2017, making the gap between \u201cPh.D.s looking for a job\u201d and \u201cjobs for Ph.D.s\u201d more like 1,000 recent graduates in 2017\u2026a year after that and you have more people unemployed for a year (a two) trying to get the job than you have recent graduates trying to get the job.<\/p>\n

Because we\u2019ve been running surpluses for years, getting the Ph.D. in English today sets you up for years of unemployment. Ok, English isn\u2019t exactly a discipline known for doing the math, perhaps other departments are being responsible?<\/p>\n

History Ph.D.s Awarded in 2016: 1000<\/em><\/p>\n

Faculty Positions in History Available in 2016: 600<\/em><\/p>\n

History is even more self-destructive, with 40% of the graduates mathematically guaranteed for unemployment. Again spending 6 to 10 years getting the degree (after the 4 to 6 years getting the undergraduate degree) is a disaster, right? It\u2019s only going to be a few years of this before we hit a traffic jam of more Ph.D. Historians entering the job market than the market could possibly absorb even if there were no new graduates.<\/p>\n

The chart lists a number of disciplines, but the trends are very clear: even as the number of jobs opening is stable, the number of graduates trying to get those jobs are increasing dramatically. I should mention, most of those positions accounted for above are sub-minimum wage adjunct jobs: our best and brightest in the humanities literally are spending 10 or more years of their life to qualify to wait several years to get a job paying less than minimum wage\u2026and they\u2019re going deep into debt for the privilege.<\/p>\n

The number of Master\u2019s Degrees being awarded is dropping, but this is more than absorbed by the Ph.D.s. I take this as a sign people are catching on: they at least realize the glut means a Master\u2019s Degree is a terrible investment in time. Yes, they\u2019re moving on to Ph.D.s but that\u2019s the end of the rope, past that point reality has to set in.<\/p>\n

Please, let reality set in.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s obnoxious how admin wins coming and going here. We\u2019re talking big, big, student loan money pouring into administrative pockets in exchange for growing the graduate schools. After graduation, the flood of applicants for any job at all means admin can get another bonus for lowering faculty pay. Hey, I understand supply and demand well enough\u2026but I also understand that it\u2019s pure evil for admin to grow their graduate schools when they know they\u2019re setting people up for financial ruin.<\/p>\n

A number of comments show that the faculty, at least, know what\u2019s happening:<\/p>\n

The academy used the recssion excuse to double-down on “shedding” full-time faculty positions. That will NEVER stop. The shift to part-time labor among faculty is as permanent as outsourcing in the manufacturing sector. PERMANENT.<\/em><\/p>\n


\nAnd yet institutions keep churning out new phd’s because they themselves are in the race: more head-counts among their doctoral students means more funding for their own dept’s. They won’t stop. They will never stop.<\/em><\/p>\n

The adjunctification of higher ed has done no good for education, and is a big part of why the \u201creal\u201d jobs are drying up. I do believe, however, that at some point it has to stop.<\/p>\n

When will it stop? When there\u2019s a guy with the story \u201cI\u2019m 40 years old, have a list of degrees as long as your arm, and there literally is no place for me except serving coffee, which I can\u2019t do because my student loan payments if I had a paycheck would be more than my paycheck\u201d living on every block. We\u2019re not there yet, I admit.<\/p>\n

That said, we are<\/em> at the stage where a kid with the story \u201cI\u2019m 24 years old with a degree in Psych, and work at Starbucks\u2026\u201d is basically on every block, and we\u2019re already seeing considerable backlash against higher education for creating such commonplace victims. Granted, the response right now is to try to offer \u201cfree\u201d college to everyone but\u2026the degrees will still be worthless.<\/p>\n

I can hardly conceive how people have such confusion of ideas to believe \u201cWe\u2019ll start giving away degrees for free, then<\/strong> they\u2019ll be worth something!\u201d<\/p>\n

Another commenter highlights the problem:<\/p>\n

Right now, my English dept employees 45 adjuncts in composition, to whom it pays $2500 per course at 23-student cap classes, and another 20 adjuncts who teach Enlish classes of 35 students at $3000 per course. The ten tenure-track people make the typical $60-90k a year.<\/em><\/p>\n


\nMeanwhile, there are two administrators here for every yenture-track (sic, should be \u201ctenure-track\u201d) faculty member, college-wide. Starting salary for those is $90k.<\/em><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/em><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/em>This is the part that I find so disturbing about higher ed right now. Sure, supply and demand means we shouldn\u2019t be paying faculty much, I accept that. But those savings should be passed on to the customers, giving them a better product (eg, smaller classes) and lower tuition.<\/p>\n

Instead, the savings just goes to pay for ever more administrators. There are many eyewitness accounts in the article, again saying nothing I haven\u2019t already said regarding what\u2019s going on in higher ed.<\/p>\n

The only thing the comments lack is a true solution. Allow me to provide one:<\/p>\n

The legion of administrators and the glut of graduate students, are both paid for by the student loan scam. Destroy that, and there would be hope for integrity, and possibly even sanity, to return to higher ed.<\/p>\n

www.professorconfess.blogspot.com<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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